The Fonz
7:37 Tue Nov 22
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Agreed Fo.
That's the point of the TV programme. There is no way Corbyn would have let that happen to any other minority when he was leader of the Labour party. The fact that Labour under his rule and the BNP are the only parties who have been investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission says it all.
He also did a number of questionable things which could infer he doesn't like Jews that much but there is no point getting into that.
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Fo the Communist
6:00 Tue Nov 22
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Branded.
He allowed anti-Semitism, which has traditionally existed on the left-wing fringes of the party, to flourish on his watch.
It's true that Corbyn's opponents (both inside and outside the party) capitalised on that but it's a fact nevertheless.
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BRANDED
5:56 Tue Nov 22
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The idea that Corbs is a racist or encourages racists can only exist in the minds of absolute retards. The fact that he is ok speaking with perceived enemies is what riles some.
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Fo the Communist
5:53 Tue Nov 22
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Surf
There are people on here who take great offence at the term. Or at least pretend to.
You are right though, it is not an exclusively English insult.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
5:47 Tue Nov 22
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FO
Silly person. Who ever got cancelled for calling someone a gammon? Fifteen years ago.
And gammon isn't an anti-English insult, anyway.
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Fo the Communist
5:21 Tue Nov 22
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Surf
"but my perception of the race it's still OK to take the piss out of apart from us English"
Pardon paraphrasing the above slightly but the faux outrage at the use of the term 'gammon' is starting to change that a bit.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:09 Tue Nov 22
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That's probably true Surface.
I don't think Corbyn himself is anti semitic, but when he became leader it encouraged all the far left anti semitic cranks to come out of the woodwork.
For them the gloves were off, and was Corbyn & his leadership team that encouraged that with stunts like waving Palestinian flags and singing terrorist songs at their party conference, and then not doing enough to tackle and stamp out the inevitable anti semitism that followed because he is naive.
He was always in the wrong place at the wrong time and never aware of the consequences of his actions.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:01 Tue Nov 22
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Oldie, Palestinians are of course people, but weren't a distinct group identifying as Palestinian until Yasser Arafat born in Egypt invented them in 1964.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:59 Tue Nov 22
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Corbyn (and others) allowed anti-Semitism to flourish within the Labour party in order to curry favour with the pro-Muslim elements.
Corbyn might well be appalled at the accusation and claim that some of his best mates are Jewish, but that's anti-Semitism right there.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:55 Tue Nov 22
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Dunno about Jews, but my perception of the race it's still OK to take the piss out of (apart from us English and the Yanks) is the Welsh.
Not that they don't deserve it, the daffodil-wearing, leek-munching, sheep-shagging, singing all the time , short-arsed cunts.
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BRANDED
4:53 Tue Nov 22
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All kinds of people don't like Jews, like they don't like Scottish or Jamaicans. Corbs is not one. He is disliked by conservatives due to his political views. As far as anti semites in the labour Party? Well there are almost certainly some like the nut case Jews who hate muslims.
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arsene york-hunt
4:31 Tue Nov 22
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Did you bin your TV because it was sending you messages GO? It's a symptom of schizophrenia
Persons with ideas of reference may experience: Believing that "somehow everyone on a passing city bus is talking about them". Feeling that people on television or radio are either talking about them or talking directly to them. Believing that headlines or articles in newspapers have been written exclusively for them.
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Auntie Thermite
2:00 Tue Nov 22
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Did David bludibub cover the ceaseless onslaught 24/7/365 absolute full frequency defamation programming in all media for years attacking Corbyn for the sole crime of believing Palestinians are people?
Anyway it's nice that the J words have a single TV programme devoted to pretending they don't have any media influence directing the discourse on any matter whatsoever all the time on every channel.
Now wear a mask, take the knee, take a shot, don;t say this, don't do that, put your son in a dress and welcome millions of Calais invaders into your home bigot, or they'll use their outsized influence to destroy your career...
Apparently Kanye West is being interviewed for next weeks episode.
I threw my TV in the bin years ago.
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Fo the Communist
12:56 Tue Nov 22
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BRANDED 11:15 Tue Nov 22
Sorry mate but that is a an overly simplistic characterisation of the anti-Semitism that was allowed to flourish under Corbyn's leadership.
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ray winstone
12:47 Tue Nov 22
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'A high profile anti semite'? As high as the British media could take him.
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Mad Dog
12:33 Tue Nov 22
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Well he is a high profile anti semite and this is a discussion about anti semitism and the treatment of Jews... so yeah
Some tories are clearly anti Muslim, some Labour anti semite.
Neither are acceptable, and that is David baddiel's point. Frankly I agree with him. Even if I think he's a bit of a prick.
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arsene york-hunt
12:21 Tue Nov 22
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I once heard him described as a comedian. That's quite funny. Just because people don't like him, doasn't mean they are anti-semitic.
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simon.s
11:55 Tue Nov 22
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Spurs always get given a free pass with this. Even Baddiel pretty much gave them a free pass.
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BRANDED
11:15 Tue Nov 22
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Corbs gets vilified for disagreeing with conservative jews. The left wing ones get on well with him.
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The Fonz
11:14 Tue Nov 22
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Just given it a watch can't say I disagree with anything he says. But I do have Jewish ties so maybe I am just a bit more aware of it.
Standing in the away end at Spurs is always a bit of an eye opener. I agree with Sven though, they need to stop calling themselves the Yids.
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ray winstone
11:07 Tue Nov 22
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Mad Dog, I’m amazed you’ve mentioned Corbyn twice, absolutely amazed….
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